I ordered these to move off of regular cigarettes which have got to be, unarguably more detrimental than the water vapor produced by e-cigarettes.

The FDA has a job to do and so I accept them pursuing whatever they feel is within their jurisdiction to investigate however I cant imagine that this is the threat that people are building it up to be.

If the FDA determines that cherry pie is detrimental to your health…which no doubt it is because of its high calorie count and someone is addicted to cherry pie growing fatter by the minute, when someone comes out with a one calorie cherry pie I dont want to hear all the resistance to it because it still has a calorie.

This is a helpful product for long time smokers who want to quit for their health or to just stop paying all of the rediculous taxes levied against it. Just because China is receiving the revenue from this product doesnt make it the devil.

Someday we in the U.S. will understand that we are in a global market and continuing to “regulate” consumers buying power has got to have its limits. If the government overtaxes a product like tobacco, we should as consumers in a free market be able to purchase outside of our local market without penalty. We dont need another “tea party” to raise awareness of overagressive taxation. Regulating international competition under the guise of consumer protection is just dishonest.

I say more power to the e-cigarette!

What is Diethylene Glycol? The MSDS2 shows that chronic exposure to Diethylene Glycol can cause lesions on the liver and kidneys, as well as damage to the same organs. In the case of inhalation, the only first aid recommended is removal from the source to fresh air. The toxicalogical information is as follows:

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Oral rat LD50: 12565 mg/kg. Skin rabbit LD50: 11.89 g/kg Irritation: eye rabbit, standard Draize: 50 mg mild. Investigated as a tumorigen and reproductive effector.
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—NTP Carcinogen—
Ingredient Known Anticipated IARC Category
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Diethylene Glycol (111-46-6) No No None
This shows that Diethylene Glycol is not a known carcinogen, nor is it expected to be found as one in the future. In addition, the dose required to kill half of the sample of rats tested is 12.565 g/kg and 11.89 g/kg for rabbits. Assuming this can be extended to humans, an average adult male would have to ingest 855.925 g to receive a lethal dose.
Is Diethylene Glycol the main ingredient in antifreeze? The EPA3 has this to say about antifreeze variations:

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Antifreeze typically contains ethylene glycol as its active ingredient, but some manufacturers market propylene glycol-based antifreeze, which is less toxic to humans and pets. The acute, or short-term, toxicity of propylene glycol, especially in humans, is substantially lower than that of ethylene glycol. Regardless of which active ingredient the spent antifreeze contains, heavy metals contaminate the antifreeze during service. When contaminated, particularly with lead, used antifreeze can be considered hazardous and should be reused, recycled, or disposed of properly.
Ethylene Glycol is the main ingredient in antifreeze. While straight antifreeze is toxic, the main hazard is from used antifreeze, which absorbs heavy metals.

What about Nitrosamines? Nitrosamines are carcinogens. Tobacco specific nitrosamines (TSNAs) are found in the liquid used by Ruyan in their cartridges. According to the Health New Zealand report1, the amount increases with the amount of nicotine, and the average is 3.928 Ng (or parts per billion [ppb]). The breakdown is as follows:

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Nitrosamines
0mg – 0.260 Ng (ppb)
6mg – 3.068 Ng
11mg – 4.200 Ng
16mg – 8.183 Ng
The highest amount found was in 16mg liquid, which had an average of 8.183 Ng. In comparison, Nicorette Gum (which is approved as an NRT) contains about 8 Ng. To put that number into perspective, Swedish moist snuff contains between 1000 and 2400 ppb nitrosamines, and unburned tobacco from cigarettes contains around 1230 ppb.

http://www.ethicsoup.com/2009/03/hey-hey-fda-whaddaya-say-are-ecigarettes-safe-eh.html